| Is it OK to
use torture on terrorists? Are there any limits on "what type of
torture?" Who should set the rule? What right does the "public" have
to know about this?
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Name: chris
email: chrise2002@hotmail.com
Vote: I would rather comment than vote.
Question: Page 26 -- Torture?
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Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2005
Time: 07:58:46 AM
CommentsMy Comments Are: We should torture them until they talk if they dont talk they get harsher tourture. We should castrate them, burn them, stab them, shoot them, what ever it takes until those litll renobs talk.
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Dianah Butler
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Vote: Survival is the bottom line. There is NO source of law that makes survival obsolete in the face of evil.
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Date: Tuesday, August 03, 2004
Time: 08:07:38 AM
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Dear Dianah,
Thanks for the vote.
Karl Loren
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Paul
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Vote: Survival is the bottom line. There is NO source of law that makes survival obsolete in the face of evil.
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Date: Monday, August 02, 2004
Time: 07:33:38 AM
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CommentsMy Comments Are:
Dear Paul,
thanks for the vote
Karl
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Jean W
email: triana@wi.rr.com
Vote: Survival is the bottom line. There is NO source of law that makes survival obsolete in the face of evil.
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Date: Monday, August 02, 2004
Time: 01:25:07 AM
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CommentsNo question here... what was done, what we saw, was most likely the tip of the iceberg. Its wrong no matter how you look at it.
Dear Jean,
Insightful comments -- thanks.
Karl Loren
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Kathy O.
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Vote: I would rather comment than vote.
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Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2004
Time: 08:06:58 PM
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CommentsTorture is not nice. War is not nice. But moderate torture to save American lives may not be nice but necessary. CBS was wrong to release the photos during a time of war. I doubt if CBS was truly concerned, it was about ratings. The Pentagon announced problems months before and that an investigation was going on. The media just skimmed over it. There's always been war and torture. Perhaps someday we won't need either option.
Dear Kathy,
Insightful comments -- thanks.
Karl Loren
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Name: bryan dutra
email: dutravich@outdrs.net
Vote: There is NEVER an excuse for torture -- it puts those who do it lower than the beast.
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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2004
Time: 07:17:23 PM
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Name: Louis L. Raef
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Vote: I would rather comment than vote.
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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2004
Time: 01:49:11 PM
CommentsMy Comments Are:
I think that terrorism must be dealt with firmly and strongly, but I am personally against TORTURE being used to achieve this end.
Dear Louis,
How do you get the secret data that may reveal a plot to murder thousands?
Karl Loren
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Name: Bob Yandow
email: byandow@comcast.net
Vote: Survival is the bottom line. There is NO source of law that makes survival obsolete in the face of evil.
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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2004
Time: 10:19:17 AM
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Name: Bob Kuhner
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Vote: Survival is the bottom line. There is NO source of law that makes survival obsolete in the face of evil.
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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2004
Time: 09:48:56 AM
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My Comments Are:
Can there be such a thing as "good torture?"
Even though the Patriot Act seems to have damaged it, we have such a thing in our country as due process.
It developed over centuries because we found that those with power do not consistently act with restraint. When they think it justified all bets are off and God help you if you're perceived as the "enemy."
Look back a few years (and even today) to see how minorities were treated once in jail. I wish I could say that we can trust our leaders and their deputies to act reasonably with the instrument of torture, but I can't.
People who are willing to let loose this evil have already lost some of their moral compass. I still believe that the end does not justify (an evil) means.
Thanks, Bob, for your vote and comment.
Karl Loren
Name: Henry Rucker
email: t1pri2000@yahoo.com
Vote: I would rather comment than vote.
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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2004
Time: 07:21:20 AM
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CommentsMy Comments Are:
The press and news agencies here in America are owned by just a few large corporations and therefore it is sensored by the executives of these few corporations that are in bed with the people running our country.
If you want the real news go to the internet and read the BBC news or and of the news agencies that are in Europe and Asia or Africa and you will get a whole different perspective on the world than what you see on ABC, CBS, or NBC.
As for the torture of terrorist ask yourself this. If the terrorist had me would they torture me? Look at Paul Johnson, or the latest victim the man from South Korea.
Were they tortured? The answer to both of these questions is yes.
So in my opinion I don't think we are using enough torture. If they can do it to us why can't we do it to them? Save your argument that we are a more civilized society and we need to set the example. Unless you have been there and been in that situation you don't have a right to comment!
Dear Henry,
Thanks for the good comment.
Karl Loren
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Name: Angelo Carlini
email: carlini@att.net
Vote: I would rather comment than vote.
Question: Page 26 -- Torture?
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Date: Saturday, June 19, 2004
Time: 08:35:21 PM
CommentsMy Comments Are:
I do not believe we should "stoop" the the level of our adversaries; therefore, other (longer) types of interrogation should be developed and applied to the controversy.
However, I see absolutely no merit to what CBS chose to do, especially in a time of war.
Their license to broadcast should be revoked!
Dear Angelo,
Thanks for your vote and comment.
I sure agree with your second point.
On the first one? Well, those who beheaded our citizens are NOT adversaries, but lower than the animals.
I can't think of any religion that can give forgiveness to such animals and do not think they have any rights.
Karl
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Name: L.M.H.
email:
Vote: I would rather comment than vote.
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Date: Friday, June 11, 2004
Time: 08:10:24 AM
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Dear LMH??
No vote, no comment? What's this about?
Karl Loren
Name: Karl Loren
email: lc
Vote: I would rather comment than vote.
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Date: Thursday, June 03, 2004
Time: 08:43:56 PM
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CommentsMy Comments Are: Thousands of years ago there is zero uncertainty on the issue of "a next life time." That certainty is gone today. With that loss we have a fixation on "living one life."
If we could see "one life" as a period of time, among many such periods, then torture and death could be seen as nothing more than a removal from society of a sociopath until we could have better control over criminals when they come back -- because surely death would not change this behavior the "next time."
Our survival is at stake -- torture need not be violent -- there are well known techniques, studied decades ago by the CIA -- using pain, drugs and hypnosis -- for getting ANY data out of a guy, without leaving even a mark.
Are we using these techniques? I don't know, but I hope so.
The real tragedy of Abu Ghrave was the stupid officers that had so little control over the soldiers that the soldiers did not only stupid things, but really ineffective things, and then, most stupidly, someone allow those stupes to take photos -- and then a real traitor slipped them to one of the real enemies of civilization -- the media.
Karl
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